i think i've seen clever posters work out how many leave the organisation each year, or at least stop being 'publishers'.
how many have been leaving each year since 2000?
is the number increasing?.
I think I've seen clever posters work out how many leave the organisation each year, or at least stop being 'publishers'. How many have been leaving each year since 2000? Is the number increasing?
How about an alternative annual worldwide report that shows the 'real' picture. This would make a really good tonic to counteract the rather depressing news that JW's have had a 3.1% increase in publishers in 2007.
the report is out!.
http://www.watchtowernews.org/2007report.pdf.
cooking the books with 3% increase??.
Why is this info in the Child Sexual Assult & Child Abuse thread? A mistake?
It's no surprise the stats have gone up with all the doom and gloom on the horizon re Iran nuclear threat, middle east tensions, oil prices, crashing housing market, US dollar practically kaput, economic depression on the horizon.....a lot of JW's are secretly imagining the end of the system really, really is close this time....it just has to be...really...this is it now...its so close I can feel it...only months away...has to be this time, surely this system can't last much longer...all the signs are there....the GB know it...just look at 2008's yeartext...it has to come before 2014 I am so sure.......zzzzz
a poster on another db mentioned that there was also a 'new' understanding regarding the dragnet.
here is a copy of his post.. "vs 47: the dragnet are meetings and memorials in which all sorts attend.
most at memorial don't make progress.
Can someone please post a link to the thread that talks about the 4 changes announced at the annual meeting. It should be on this board but evidently isn't.
well its a week since johnny wilkinson kicked the frogs into touch on their home turf, and i cant wait for the match tonight.. loads of people at work have bet on an england win (not at the bookies, just in the staff sweepstakes!
) and i cant help thinking they are voting with their hearts rather than their heads.
still coming second is no shame, given how stupendously crap we have been recently.. am off for an all you can eat chinese before the match - gonna need some serious fuel for 8pm, and i think every pizza`delivery man in the land is going to be overworked.. anyone else all revved up for the limb fest that is going to be england v south africa?.
England are the epitome of all that is wrong with the game of rugby: massive, immobile, tractor forwards totally dominating with weak underused backs hardling getting a look, a game completely based around defensive kicking tactics, dour, negative, a bore. They only scored 1 try in the last 3 games of this tournament, coming very close to winning it that way. This is very sad for the game and is turning people off rugby. South Africa are only slightly better.
The only teams that came to this tournament wanting to play attractive, running rugby the way it should be played, were the All Blacks and Australia. And look what happened to them.
And this is exactly why the IRB are bringing in MAJOR changes to the rules from next year (starting with the Super 14), eg, hands in rucks will be allowed, the offside line will be 5 metres behind the scrum not the last players foot, most penalty offensives will become freekicks,etc.
It will be goodbye to the likes of Johnny Wilkinson and fat, slow props who do nothing more than walk from one maul to the next.
The 2011 tourny will be MUCH better than the rubbish we had to endure at this tournament.
hello everyone, i am new here and newly freed from the snare of wtbs.
my sister, also newly freed, said our mom told her at the annual meeting there was a new "understanding" on the generation confusion.
it is now the annointed that will not pass away.. has anyone else heard this?
All the Society can do is keep fiddling around with the meaning of 'this generation' after 12 years of practically zilcho 'new light'. How utterly pathetic, given all the scandal over child abuse, disfellowshipping, blood transfusions,etc. Is this all JW's get, considering all the other more important false interpretations the Society uphold and that numerous websites and books ruthlessly expose. It's a sad joke for all those millions of long-suffering JW's still enthralled to the little old man behind the curtain.
JW's need to wake up and sniff the internet.
yadda
we've already had a post on this, but there were other interesting comments.. the brother giving the announcements said that there would be a new understanding of jesus' reference to the generation as discussed at the annual meeting.. an elder giving a service meeting part review of different watchtower articles from the current year brought out the new light concerning 1935.. he asks: "when is the sealing of the anounted ones?".
elder answers: "there is no specific date".
later after the meeting, i asked an elder if the new understanding of the remnant now meant that younger people could go to heaven.. he answered with an affirmative "yes" and that we would be getting the new understanding of the generation jesus spoke of in a future 2008 watchtower.. .
Yes, but what has this got to do with the 'this generation' understanding? The Society have never officially linked 'this generation' to 1935. Are you suggesting that they are going to change the understanding of 'this generation' by saying that it means all anointed persons living during the last days (from 1914 of course)? To narrow it down to just the anointed like that would be very strange, and just another elitist ploy by the GB to elevate themselves in the minds of the rank and file (99.9% of whom have been deceived into thinking they are not anointed). Either way, the new understanding of 'this generation' from 1995 has already provided for a practically indefinite length of time for what a generation can mean. So any such change is probably more about getting ready for the time when Barr and Jaracz et al finally snuff it and all the anointed are relatively young in comparison. This would be seen as a ploy to set the stage for more younger anointed ones to take on positions of senior responsibility at Brooklyn, thats all.
The correct, and scriptural, thing for them to do is of course announce that all JW's should be taking the emblems whether or not they feel a heavenly or earthly 'calling'.
yaddayadda
check out my new avatar!
so the opposite of a sweet face, but he's so adorable.
i love his nose!
Gonzo must pull the chicks having a penis for a nose!
hi there, greg.
greg .
nate and john: .
You really rate yourself dontcha
thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, ,,,,,,,.
can't find anything.
maybe you guys can.. andy.
Yes some of the main doctrines are true.
so one year of lots of questions and showing doubts, and missing quite a few meetings but still going out in service, doing mics, reading, hall projects...then i get the new light from society regarding the letter i sent them (wow, stunned me, blew me away) and i let them know how i felt about it and i quit the ministry after 40 active years.
nobody says anything about this, no counsel, no will you go out with us on saturday.
not a single "were is your time for the month" phone call.
Hi Oompa, Can u please send me a copy of that letter, or post the link to the thread you started about it.
Ta
Must O Bey!
